p2chat September 14, 2010

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Beth Offenbacker of Public Decisions hosts #p2chat, a weekly chat on public participation, Tuesdays at 6pm Eastern/3pm Pacific.

This is the archive of tweets for the September 14 chat. (Archive courtesy of TwapperKeeper.)

PublicDecisionsHi everyone and welcome to this week’s #P2Chat! This week we’ll be talking about Web 2.0 mobile phones & civic engmt &other gr8 stuff too^09/14/10 05:30 PM ET
PublicDecisionsPlease introduce yourself and tell us about the work you do #P2Chat^09/14/10 05:34 PM ET
PublicDecisionsI’m Beth Offenbacker @PublicDecisions We use techn 2 enhance public engmt thru our distinctive online programs conf and training #P2chat^09/14/10 05:59 PM ET
PublicDecisionsNew report out about use of mobile phones and civic engmt shows link betwn usage http://bit.ly/c3FjLu #P2Chat^09/14/10 05:59 PM ET
citizentoolsChris Berendes Netalyst CTO Gov2.0 in the ’90s w/the Reinventing Gov’t team and Nuclear Reg Comm in the ’00s with USDOT; #p2chat blogger^09/14/10 06:02 PM ET
PublicDecisionsMobile ph pt2/findings: "techn for info exch & recreation R positive predictors of participation in civic life" http://bit.ly/c3FjLu #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:05 PM ET
PublicDecisions….HOWEVER link is "moderated by mobile communication competence" #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:06 PM ET
PublicDecisionsQ: to what degree are you using mobile techn as part of #publicengmt efforts? Little some a lot none?? #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:07 PM ET
citizentoolsRT @PublicDecisions: New report out about use of mobile phones and civic engmt shows link betwn usage http://bit.ly/c3FjLu #p2chat^09/14/10 06:07 PM ET
citizentoolsHow much longer will mobile be an entirely separate category vs. a "flavor" as say Mac vs. PC have been for a while? #p2chat^09/14/10 06:08 PM ET
citizentoolsBeth – any surprising to you about the study? #p2chat^09/14/10 06:09 PM ET
PublicDecisionsSeveral fed agencies like EPA DOT are adapting websites so can be used/seen on smartphones pdas; not seeing so much by state/local #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:10 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Agree more and more blurring; Pew report this wk saying that 60% ppl use mobiles to go on internet send text email #p2chat^09/14/10 06:11 PM ET
PublicDecisionsOOPs correction….Pew said 40% (not 60%) is up 8% since last yr #p2chat^09/14/10 06:12 PM ET
PublicDecisionsU Mich study interesting to see assn talked about a new kind of ‘digital divide’ in this way #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:14 PM ET
PublicDecisions@CItIzentools my pers exp has been more broad appr 2 engage ppl less segmenting of grps acc 2 techn; your exp too? Seeing shift tho #P2chat^09/14/10 06:14 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions how many engagement sponsors/consultants attempt to engage in all the different aves avail? would be eye-opening. #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:15 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions matters also whether a particular tech meant to cre8 more access to same ppl already on web or bring in new ppl #P2chat^09/14/10 06:17 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Agree would be fascinating data; also how to choose among many choices why some chosen over others #P2chat^09/14/10 06:18 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Agree would be fascinating data; also how to choose among many choices why some chosen over others #P2chat^09/14/10 06:19 PM ET
PublicDecisionsNew data re cities using soc media 4 #publicengmt (Shameless plug: NLC folks spking at free pgm in Oct for us) http://bit.ly/afotJ4 #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:19 PM ET
citizentools#p2chat interesting take on mobile as way to reach the "too digital too busy" i.e. execs http://bit.ly/awgaXo^09/14/10 06:19 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Great piece on engaging senior folks think gen assumption is mobile is not for them… #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:22 PM ET
PublicDecisionsWhat influence is iPad having on sr execs &on comm too? Seeing more ppl using (anecdotally)…I think of iPad as "souped up" smartph #P2chat^09/14/10 06:22 PM ET
citizentoolsSeem to be a lot of IPad converts. FlipBoard app http://bit.ly/ac0SI6 converts your followers/friends into new editors #p2chat^09/14/10 06:23 PM ET
PublicDecisionsFollow on to last week’s #crowdsourcing disc have you been following Challenge.gov news? http://bit.ly/9Ahgjr #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:25 PM ET
PublicDecisionsHaven’t seen prize money as part of p2 efforts before; new to others too?? #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:29 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions I think $$$ prizes for p2 tricky; wise man said "you can send flowers after a date but not the $$$ equiv" #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:29 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions I think $$$ prizes for p2 tricky; wise man said “you can send flowers after a date but not the $$$ equiv” #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:30 PM ET
PublicDecisionsQuestion is about whether influence of possibly getting actual reward vs karmic one is good or not so good… #P2chat^09/14/10 06:34 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions More seriously – nature of prize important – appreciation "insider status" probably works better than $$$ for p2 #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:34 PM ET
PublicDecisions@Citizentools Agreealso worry that competition rather than coop collab is emphasized #P2chat^09/14/10 06:34 PM ET
citizentoolsIpad again – convert at Forrester: "The iPad gives me an omnipresent window into that digital world. " http://bit.ly/9EtzwW #p2chat^09/14/10 06:35 PM ET
PublicDecisionsGood stories coming out of Gov 2.0 summit did you see one on legal challenges of FB other apps http://bit.ly/aZZ5iK #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:36 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions re coop v collab – prize may spur selective collab if entries must meet a high standard e.g. #netflix prize #P2chat^09/14/10 06:37 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions re coop v collab – prize may spur selective collab if entries must meet a high standard e.g. #netflix prize #P2chat^09/14/10 06:39 PM ET
PublicDecisions@Citizentools would love to have iPad myself much lighter than laptop (or even Netbook) #P2chat^09/14/10 06:39 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions key line: ‚ÄúI have to somehow make it work but it takes a bit of doing‚Äù +10 That’s a #gov20 -savvycounsel. #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:39 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions key line: ‚ÄúI have to somehow make it work but it takes a bit of doing‚Äù +10 That’s a #gov20 -savvycounsel. #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:39 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Good point on collab and standards #Netflix prob gold standard in prompting that #P2chat^09/14/10 06:41 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions Imagine value of iconizing a p2 "weather rpt" to fit in corner of Ipad screen #P2chat^09/14/10 06:41 PM ET
citizentoolsRT @PublicDecisions: Follow on to last week’s #crowdsourcing disc have you been following Challenge.gov news? http://bit.ly/9Ahgjr #p2chat^09/14/10 06:42 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools So easy to get caught up using tools we already kno not new ones too…have 2 use tools that ppl we want 2 reach use #P2chat^09/14/10 06:42 PM ET
citizentools#p2chat Compare NLC http://bit.ly/czwsW8 vs. commercial #socmed http://bit.ly/akHcsm <grump>Which has gone from novelty to value?</grump>^09/14/10 06:43 PM ET
PublicDecisionsHad a genl sense that UK ahead of US in govt digi media report based on 20 govt depts says ‘not really’ http://bit.ly/cqRSrT #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:45 PM ET
PublicDecisionsHad a genl sense that UK ahead of US in govt digi media report based on 20 govt depts says ‘not really’ http://bit.ly/cqRSrT #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:46 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Say more about…do u mean priv sector ‘gets it’ more?? #p2chat #socmed^09/14/10 06:48 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Say more about…do u mean priv sector ‘gets it’ more?? #p2chat #socmed^09/14/10 06:48 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions "conversation"and "two-way" and "interactive" conspicuously absent on that p. ;-( #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:49 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Interesting obs…that squares w UK report too..more use for info starting 2 get into soc med 4 engmt #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:49 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Interesting obs…that squares w UK report too..more use for info starting 2 get into soc med 4 engmt #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:50 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions yup. Private sector more focused on outcomes e.g. sales. Govt in gen’l more in the "hey I tweeted" stage #p2chat #socmed^09/14/10 06:51 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions <grump>countless presentations that start w/30 s on "mkts = conversations" then 30m on "how to push messages" #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:51 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions <grump>countless presentations that start w/30 s on “mkts = conversations” then 30m on “how to push messages” #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:52 PM ET
PublicDecisionsSome gr8 examples though of how nonprofits are harnessing soc med for engmt action http://www.comminit.com/en/node/322585/306# #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:53 PM ET
PublicDecisionsSome gr8 examples though of how nonprofits are harnessing soc med for engmt action http://www.comminit.com/en/node/322585/306# #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:53 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions also interesting that most #gov20 friends unfamiliar with http://amzn.to/bgcrFh or @charleneli #p2chat #socmed^09/14/10 06:54 PM ET
PublicDecisions@citizentools Yes some orgs think of p2 and marketing together when (I thnk) shld be abt serving public interest #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:54 PM ET
citizentoolsRT @PublicDecisions: Some gr8 examples though of how nonprofits are harnessing soc med for engmt action http://www.comminit.com/en/node/322585/306# #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:55 PM ET
PublicDecisionsGreat conversation this week as always! this is like a high-octane version of chatting around the watercooler :) #p2chat^09/14/10 06:56 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions Also think that listening is hard and humbling but can lead to highly effective marketing (hence the biz interest) #P2Chat^09/14/10 06:56 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions Big fun – great linksthanks. Still working on that 58pp report though 😉 #p2chat^09/14/10 06:58 PM ET
PublicDecisions@Citizentools you are right on about listening…so easy to talk much more work to listen actively #p2chat^09/14/10 06:59 PM ET
PublicDecisionsThanks @Citizentools! Have a great evening and looking forward to the conversation next week! #P2chat^09/14/10 07:00 PM ET
citizentools@PublicDecisions Thanks for hosting Beth. #p2chat^09/14/10 07:00 PM ET